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VLASS SSG Meeting Notes

  1. Observing and data processing status – Amy Kimball, Mark Lacy

    • Epoch 3.1 is 72% observed

    • BnA at the end of May for the rest

    • QL imaging is 43% complete, automated QA going well

    • No more SE imaging yet

  2. Updates from working groups:

    1. Extragalactic - Kate Alexander, Heinz Andernach

      • New paper on arXiv:2303.12830 by Gordon+23 (DRAGN hunting)

    2. Galactic - Laurant Loinard, Adam Ginsburg

      • Galactic pulsars (Shami + Dillon discussed at DSA-2000 meeting)

    3. Transients - Gregg Hallinan, Greg Sivakoff

      • Transient conference

        • Deadline for abstracts in 2 weeks!

      • New transient identified by Yuyang Chen (point source inside galactic supernova remnant)

      • Dillon’s transient catalog is progressing, real time transient identification of transients coming soon to go after faster transient pops - open to ideas

    4. Polarization - Bryan Gaensler, Jennifer West

      • New cubes being analyzed (pol + spectral indices from cubes; spix being compared with other CIRADA products)

      • POSSUM collaboration

      • New computing resources

    5. Commensal - Wendy Peters, Chenoa Trembley

    6. Data Products - Dillon Dong, Erik Rosolowsky

    7. Science communication - Brian Kent, Erik Murphy

      • NRAO will send announcement today about activities at AAS, VLASS splinter

    8. EPO - Jacob Noel-Storr, Summer Ash

      • VLA open house on April 1, public talks

    9. Other topics?


      • CIRADA Epoch 2 VLASS catalog status?
        • Sidelobe detection between QL and SE under investigation . . . 

        • Sidelobe probability/other flags for this catalog currently being explored

  3. Science presentation - VLASS Epoch 4 (Mark Lacy)
      • 1900 hr of time (in addition to 5600 hr for first 3 epochs)
      • 4.1 would start in 2025, 4.2 in 2026/2027
      • Science
        • VLASS has demonstrated important new science on slow transients (especially via comparison to FIRST)
        • Epoch 4 would allow us to reduce the gap between VLASS Epoch 1-2 and FIRST
        • VLASS remains unique compared to other transient surveys in terms of resolution and frequency coverage
        • Variations in polarimetry remains unexplored
        • Slightly better SNR for faint sources in coadds (probe well into SF galaxy population with improved sensitivity)
      • Logistics
        • Improve commensal survey datasets (VCSS and COSMIC had some issues in 3.1)
        • VLASS1.1 was compromised due to antenna pointing issues
        • Key opportunity: VLASS could be a good transitional project from VLA to ngVLA, also complementary to DSA-2000 timescale (stepping stone)
  • SSG input:
      • Tasks:
        • SSG would need to write the science case for a 4th epoch of VLASS
          • Science pitch due at the end of the month (Mark Lacy will lead this)
          • If full proposal requested by NRAO, SSG will write the bulk of it
      • Additional science ideas?
        • Fast processing use case ideas (Galactic transients, Dillon) - R&D potential for pioneering new techniques
      • Strategy?
        • Continue with current cadence and observing strategy
        • Could skip a configuration or two
          • Might be beneficial for some transient science cases (Dillon)
        • Could do a C-config epoch to fill in short baselines
          • Would be valuable for low-surface brightness sources (Heinz)
          • But this would lead to challenges for transient identification/host matching (Dillon) 
          • Complications for variable AGN science (Kate)
        • Could do a C-band survey instead (comes with new challenges)
          • Imaging heuristics easier
          • Data volume larger
          • Harder to compare with transient data
          • Spix info (e.g. peaked spectrum/young sources, including AGN and TDEs), broader band pol
          • For transient science cases, better to stick to same frequency (Kate)
        • Cost of producing and storing >3 sets of SE?  1+2+3+4 co-adds would be challenging computationally/resource wise
        • Would need BnA in the schedule
      • Challenges
        • Mitigation measures for workload of staff/DA
      • NOTES:
        • LSST synergy with 2025 start to 4.1 (Dillon)
        • CASA has a GPU gridder under development, faster (SE) imaging (Juergen)
          • Would open up opportunities for catching faster transients
          • Current delay between processing and QL images is 30 days
        • Now that we have everything in place, we would need relatively little development of infrastructure (Juergen)
        • Question: could we do OTF testing in C-config to get guidance on how it would work (Tracy)?
          • Yes, Steve has tested this for COSMOS field at C-band/C-config
        • Needs a strong science case to be worth it (Shami, Bryan)


  • Single epoch data processing
    • Community proposal opportunity?
      • Level of SSG interest?
        • Mark, Dillon, Jennifer, Kate - informal Google form? 
      • Timescale?
      • Logistics?
    • Suggestions:
      • Deep fields (Stripe 82, CDFS, etc. . . ) - Mark, Steve
      • Galactic Plane - Dillon
      • Science targets of interest (transients, AGN . . . )
      • Outreach - identify and prioritize VLASS images to feature in the NRAO Science and Facilities brochure (currently features quicklook images) - Brian Kent
      • Community solicitation (“SE data processing proposal”) - Kristina


  • Polarization products - Mark Lacy
    • SE polarization cube demonstration release
      • 12 x 1 deg^2 IQU coarse (128MHz channel width) cubes (and an averaged V plane) is now available here.
      • The first draft of the users' guide is available here
      • Comments?
    • Stokes V storage plan



  1. Splinter session update for AAS #242 (June 2023) – Steve Myers
    • Reminder: abstracts for talks at the AAS242 meeting (not in the splinter session, that is separate) are due 11 April if you want to give one in another session.
    • Early registration for the meeting ends Apr 20 (you have to be registered for the meeting to attend the Splinter in person, though not for the Splinter online Zoom).


  • Next meeting: Monday, May 8 at 1pm EST / 11am MST / 18:00 UTC


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Reference material:

  • Terms of reference document: pdf 
  • VLASS Slack workspace and SSG channel (contact Bryan Gaensler)
  • Confluence page
  • Next meeting: Monday, April 2nd at 1pm EST / 11am MST / 18:00 UTC
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