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VLASS SSG Meeting Notes

  1. Observing and data processing status – Amy Kimball, Mark Lacy

    • Epoch 3.1 is 72% observed

    • BnA at the end of May for the rest

    • QL imaging is 43% complete, automated QA going well

    • No more SE imaging yet

  2. Updates from working groups:

    • Extragalactic - Kate Alexander, Heinz Andernach

      • New paper on arXiv:2303.12830 by Gordon+23 (DRAGN hunting)

    • Galactic - Laurant Loinard, Adam Ginsburg

      • Galactic pulsars (Shami + Dillon discussed at DSA-2000 meeting)

    • Transients - Gregg Hallinan, Greg Sivakoff

      • Transient conference

        • Deadline for abstracts in 2 weeks!

      • New transient identified by Yuyang Chen (point source inside galactic supernova remnant)

      • Dillon’s transient catalog is progressing, real time transient identification of transients coming soon to go after faster transient pops - open to ideas

    • Polarization - Bryan Gaensler, Jennifer West

      • New cubes being analyzed (pol + spectral indices from cubes; spix being compared with other CIRADA products)

      • POSSUM collaboration

      • New computing resources

    • Commensal - Wendy Peters, Chenoa Trembley

    • Data Products - Dillon Dong, Erik Rosolowsky

    • Science communication - Brian Kent, Erik Murphy

      • NRAO will send announcement today about activities at AAS, VLASS splinter

    • EPO - Jacob Noel-Storr, Summer Ash

      • VLA open house on April 1, public talks

    • Other topics?

      • CIRADA Epoch 2 VLASS catalog status?

        • Sidelobe detection between QL and SE under investigation . . . 

        • Sidelobe probability/other flags for this catalog currently being explored

      1. Science presentation - VLASS Epoch 4 (Mark Lacy)
        • 1900 hr of time (in addition to 5600 hr for first 3 epochs)
        • 4.1 would start in 2025, 4.2 in 2026/2027
        • Science
          • VLASS has demonstrated important new science on slow transients (especially via comparison to FIRST)
          • Epoch 4 would allow us to reduce the gap between VLASS Epoch 1-2 and FIRST
          • VLASS remains unique compared to other transient surveys in terms of resolution and frequency coverage
          • Variations in polarimetry remains unexplored
          • Slightly better SNR for faint sources in coadds (probe well into SF galaxy population with improved sensitivity)
        • Logistics
          • Improve commensal survey datasets (VCSS and COSMIC had some issues in 3.1)
          • VLASS1.1 was compromised due to antenna pointing issues
          • Key opportunity: VLASS could be a good transitional project from VLA to ngVLA, also complementary to DSA-2000 timescale (stepping stone)
    • SSG input:
        • Tasks:
          • SSG would need to write the science case for a 4th epoch of VLASS
            • Science pitch due at the end of the month (Mark Lacy will lead this)
            • If full proposal requested by NRAO, SSG will write the bulk of it
        • Additional science ideas?
          • Fast processing use case ideas (Galactic transients, Dillon) - R&D potential for pioneering new techniques
        • Strategy?
          • Continue with current cadence and observing strategy
          • Could skip a configuration or two
            • Might be beneficial for some transient science cases (Dillon)
          • Could do a C-config epoch to fill in short baselines
            • Would be valuable for low-surface brightness sources (Heinz)
            • But this would lead to challenges for transient identification/host matching (Dillon) 
            • Complications for variable AGN science (Kate)
          • Could do a C-band survey instead (comes with new challenges)
            • Imaging heuristics easier
            • Data volume larger
            • Harder to compare with transient data
    • Spix info (e.g. peaked spectrum/young sources, including AGN and TDEs), broader band pol
    • For transient science cases, better to stick to same frequency (Kate)
    • Cost of producing and storing >3 sets of SE?  1+2+3+4 co-adds would be challenging computationally/resource wise
    • Would need BnA in the schedule
    • Challenges
      • Mitigation measures for workload of staff/DA
    • NOTES:
      • LSST synergy with 2025 start to 4.1 (Dillon)
      • CASA has a GPU gridder under development, faster (SE) imaging (Juergen)
        • Would open up opportunities for catching faster transients
        • Current delay between processing and QL images is 30 days
      • Now that we have everything in place, we would need relatively little development of infrastructure (Juergen)
      • Question: could we do OTF testing in C-config to get guidance on how it would work (Tracy)?
        • Yes, Steve has tested this for COSMOS field at C-band/C-config
      • Needs a strong science case to be worth it (Shami, Bryan)

    • Single epoch data processing
      • Community proposal opportunity?
        • Level of SSG interest?
          • Mark, Dillon, Jennifer, Kate - informal Google form? 
        • Timescale?
        • Logistics?
      • Suggestions:
        • Deep fields (Stripe 82, CDFS, etc. . . ) - Mark, Steve
        • Galactic Plane - Dillon
    • Science targets of interest (transients, AGN . . . )
    • Outreach - identify and prioritize VLASS images to feature in the NRAO Science and Facilities brochure (currently features quicklook images) - Brian Kent
    • Community solicitation (“SE data processing proposal”) - Kristina

    • Polarization products - Mark Lacy
      • SE polarization cube demonstration release
        • 12 x 1 deg^2 IQU coarse (128MHz channel width) cubes (and an averaged V plane) is now available here.
        • The first draft of the users' guide is available here
        • Comments?
      • Stokes V storage plan


    1. Splinter session update for AAS #242 (June 2023) – Steve Myers
      • Reminder: abstracts for talks at the AAS242 meeting (not in the splinter session, that is separate) are due 11 April if you want to give one in another session.
      • Early registration for the meeting ends Apr 20 (you have to be registered for the meeting to attend the Splinter in person, though not for the Splinter online Zoom).
    • Next meeting: Monday, May 8 at 1pm EST / 11am MST / 18:00 UTC

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Reference material:

  • Terms of reference document: pdf 
  • VLASS Slack workspace and SSG channel (contact Bryan Gaensler)
  • Confluence page
  • Next meeting: Monday, April 2nd at 1pm EST / 11am MST / 18:00 UTC
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